Lazy HBD

What really frustrates me is Lazy HBD. There are dozens of public use data sets waiting to be explored from a HBD perspective. Statistical packages can be downloaded for free. All sorts of HBDish questions can be addressed: Do 2nd generation Blacks do worse on cognitive tests than 3rd+ generation Blacks? Do mixed White and Asians outperform Whites? What is the standardized difference between first, second, and third generation Hispanics controlling for SES? Does color correlate with IQ in the Hispanic population? Does color correlate with crime in the Black population? But it seems that few are interested. I don’t get it.

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4 Responses to Lazy HBD

  1. JL says:

    Ideally, academic researchers would look into these questions and report on them, not hobbyists. However, all the well-known race realist academics are long in the teeth, and probably don’t feel like trawling through data sets. There are hardly any younger HBD researchers, and to the extent these questions are discussed in academic journals, it’s almost always by people who try to disprove the existence of heritable group differences. Anti-HBD is winning by default.

    This a chance for HBD bloggers to pick up the slack, but other than your excellent work, Chuck, little gets done these days, which is a shame.

    • Chuck says:



      Agreed. I can’t get you to dig through some of these data sets, can I?

      By the way, what do you make of the mixed race data? I recently, claimed: “In light of the accumulated evidence, claims of the intellectual equality between mixed and non mixed Black/Whites (e.g., Nisbett, 2011) are no longer tenable.” Since then, I’ve looked at more data sets and have come to think the otherwise.

      Take a look at the aggregate mixed race NAEP scores. As Black-White mixes form the plurality of mixes, this is an ok index of the Black-White score. (This was the case in the Pisa data, too; the Black-White score was about 20-30% lower than the total mixed race score — as the total scores was elevated by the White-Asian scores.) That is, if the total mixed race score is 5/35 SD below Whites, the Black-White mixed race score is around or a little more than 5/35 SD below Whites. So we might estimate between .15 and .2 SD below.

      Well, how do we square this with a genetic hypothesis, given the .70 SD difference between Whites and Blacks in this data?

  2. KS says:

    The questions you mention are certainly interesting by themselves, but as a HBD-layman myself I kind of ‘get it’. It seems like at the ‘pop sci’ level only future work in genetics and biology is going to provide enough evidence to prove that there are ‘significant’ biological/genetic reasons for group differences to those that might be excessively skeptical. Yes, many in the HBD community may not have the quantitative skills or training for the detailed analysis of data sets, but this seems more useful for making policy than proving the basic tenets of HBD, and HBD-related policies won’t even be on the table until the answers to the bigger questions are more established among the general public.

  3. Chuck says:


    Good to hear from you again. Let’s hear your answer.

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